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1 00:00:10,076 --> 00:00:11,277 Well good morning everyone. 2 00:00:11,277 --> 00:00:14,114 Thank you for coming out on this gorgeous day today. 3 00:00:14,114 --> 00:00:16,850 And, it's it's short notice. I know. 4 00:00:16,850 --> 00:00:17,984 Must be, 5 00:00:17,984 --> 00:00:20,987 we're getting into the long weekend, so thank you very much for being here. 6 00:00:21,054 --> 00:00:24,858 First, I want to thank our speakers, Doctor Mercy Waingina, founder 7 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:28,962 and CEO of Hope and Chance integrated Health, Daniel Malone 8 00:00:29,596 --> 00:00:33,967 of, executive director of the downtown emergency Services Center. 9 00:00:33,967 --> 00:00:37,170 Brandy McNeil and Lisa Dugard, who couldn't be with us today 10 00:00:37,437 --> 00:00:39,339 with Purpose, Dignity Action. 11 00:00:39,339 --> 00:00:43,009 And Steve Woolworth, CEO of Evergreen Treatment Services. 12 00:00:43,009 --> 00:00:44,778 Thank you all for being here. 13 00:00:44,778 --> 00:00:48,882 And I also want to alert you to the fact that we've got other guests, 14 00:00:49,582 --> 00:00:54,254 including Uplift Northwest, Seattle Indian Health Board, the Salvation Army, 15 00:00:54,421 --> 00:00:57,290 we have Seattle Reach, The More We Love, 16 00:00:57,290 --> 00:01:01,861 Battlefield Addiction, Sodo BIA, Ballard Alliance 17 00:01:01,861 --> 00:01:05,432 and the Alliance for Pioneer Square and the City Attorney's office. 18 00:01:05,565 --> 00:01:07,200 City attorney. 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,203 Thank you all for standing here with me today. 20 00:01:10,770 --> 00:01:11,137 All right. 21 00:01:12,338 --> 00:01:12,572 You've 22 00:01:12,572 --> 00:01:15,575 heard me say this before, but I'll just say it again for good measure. 23 00:01:15,575 --> 00:01:20,380 The fentanyl crisis and addiction in general is inextricably 24 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:25,218 linked to our chronic homelessness and our public safety problems. 25 00:01:25,652 --> 00:01:28,655 And you don't have to be in recovery to realize that, 26 00:01:29,222 --> 00:01:34,060 expanding access to evidence based treatment is a is a good way 27 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:38,765 to help solve both problems, or at least chip away at them for too long. 28 00:01:39,065 --> 00:01:42,035 For too long, we've watched people suffering 29 00:01:42,035 --> 00:01:46,239 from untreated addiction in mental illness deteriorate in our streets. 30 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,042 While our neighborhoods become less safe. 31 00:01:49,042 --> 00:01:50,543 And there's a reason why we're right here. 32 00:01:50,543 --> 00:01:55,081 This area pioneers, you know, Pioneer Square, Occidental Park is 33 00:01:55,081 --> 00:01:58,084 is one of the Ground Zeroes in this city for, 34 00:01:58,718 --> 00:02:02,088 for gun violence, for, and for 35 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:04,290 the heartbreak that 36 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:07,260 is associated with addiction. 37 00:02:07,393 --> 00:02:09,929 So, that is why 38 00:02:09,929 --> 00:02:12,932 I put forward my pilot project a couple of years ago. 39 00:02:13,633 --> 00:02:15,468 That enables caseworkers, 40 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:19,139 to refer people to rehab at Lakeside-Milam Treatment Center. 41 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:21,441 It's over there in, in Kirkland. 42 00:02:21,441 --> 00:02:23,710 After which Lakeside. 43 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:28,815 after 28 days of residential detox and treatment, they just build a city. 44 00:02:29,048 --> 00:02:32,285 That's a simple way of getting people the help they need right now. 45 00:02:32,285 --> 00:02:36,189 Because the last thing we want is for Medicaid 46 00:02:37,023 --> 00:02:41,461 recipients to wait weeks to get into one of the exceedingly few spots 47 00:02:41,461 --> 00:02:44,464 because we know what can happen in the meantime. 48 00:02:44,864 --> 00:02:47,066 It's working. Caseworkers with Co-lead, 49 00:02:47,066 --> 00:02:50,570 We HeartSeattle, The More We Love have taken advantage of this resource 50 00:02:50,803 --> 00:02:53,907 because everyone everyone deserves the same chance 51 00:02:54,207 --> 00:02:57,010 at recovery that I had almost five years ago. 52 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:00,780 People in Medicaid shouldn't have to wait, and the city 53 00:03:00,780 --> 00:03:03,917 shouldn't have to wait for, for better solutions. 54 00:03:04,684 --> 00:03:08,288 What I'm fighting for is simple, and it's to put treatment 55 00:03:08,288 --> 00:03:11,524 at the heart and the center of the city's agenda. 56 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:12,959 Policy agenda. 57 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:15,428 We can't keep deferring investments in treatment 58 00:03:15,428 --> 00:03:19,399 while watching the same people cycle through homelessness, overdose, 59 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:23,403 emergency rooms in jail over and over and over again. 60 00:03:24,404 --> 00:03:28,141 So bringing people together, putting forward 61 00:03:28,141 --> 00:03:33,346 a package of proposed investments isn't just fiscally, responsible. 62 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:37,016 It's a break from what we've been doing in the past, 63 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:40,053 deferring constantly, which is a moral failure. 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,656 The time is now for a zealous push for a righteous cause, 65 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:47,060 using an opportunity the legislature gave us by authorizing 66 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:52,232 local jurisdictions to increase the sales tax by 0.1% for public safety. 67 00:03:52,799 --> 00:03:56,002 And the way that the legislature writes public safety in that bill 68 00:03:56,002 --> 00:03:57,570 does include behavioral health. 69 00:03:58,571 --> 00:04:01,574 While Mayor Harrell has not yet announced implementing 70 00:04:01,741 --> 00:04:05,411 this new funding source, he has indicated interest in doing so 71 00:04:05,411 --> 00:04:10,250 because it will raise over $35 million for public safety, and my resolution 72 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:13,253 calls for allocating up to 25% of that 73 00:04:13,486 --> 00:04:16,289 to the pathway to recovery. 74 00:04:16,289 --> 00:04:20,493 HB 2015 was sponsored by Representative Inman 75 00:04:20,493 --> 00:04:24,297 and pushed by the Black Caucus, likely because the Black community 76 00:04:24,297 --> 00:04:26,065 is disproportionately impacted 77 00:04:26,065 --> 00:04:29,269 by violence, particularly as violence surrounding the drug trade 78 00:04:29,636 --> 00:04:32,939 and overrepresented in fatal overdose statistics. 79 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:36,609 No one likes to increase 80 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:39,679 regressive taxes, but I am I am suggesting to you, 81 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:43,216 a little bit of the background why it was put forward. 82 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:45,652 The legislature 83 00:04:45,652 --> 00:04:48,655 carved out this funding source. 84 00:04:50,323 --> 00:04:52,625 Perhaps someone who needs treatment. 85 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:56,229 Anyway, the legislature carved out this funding source 86 00:04:56,429 --> 00:05:00,533 for public safety, specifically for this kind of intervention. 87 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:04,170 This is not about raising taxes on working families. 88 00:05:04,170 --> 00:05:05,672 This is about helping working families. 89 00:05:05,672 --> 00:05:09,942 Because there isn't one working family I would suggest that has not been touched 90 00:05:09,942 --> 00:05:10,610 by addiction. 91 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:14,113 Many of you people standing behind me as well. 92 00:05:15,748 --> 00:05:16,482 When we invest 93 00:05:16,482 --> 00:05:20,053 in getting people off the streets and into treatment, we prevent crime, 94 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:23,756 reduce emergency room responses, and make every neighborhood safer. 95 00:05:23,756 --> 00:05:25,892 And that is smart public safety. 96 00:05:25,892 --> 00:05:28,361 That is public safety. 97 00:05:28,361 --> 00:05:31,497 So our speakers will talk today about sustaining the investments 98 00:05:31,497 --> 00:05:36,002 we're already making in treatment and bringing new interventions 99 00:05:36,002 --> 00:05:38,971 to fill in the gaps in what has been up to now, 100 00:05:39,105 --> 00:05:42,675 a more limited set of options for people who are struggling with addiction. 101 00:05:43,176 --> 00:05:46,179 Because take it from me, when someone struggling with a substance 102 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:51,117 use disorder decides to take that step, we have got to give them somewhere to go. 103 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:54,020 And so that's what I'm trying to do here today. 104 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:58,291 I will now stop talking and, turn the mic over to Doctor 105 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:02,295 Mercy one niner, founder and CEO of Hope and Chance Integrated Health. 106 00:06:02,628 --> 00:06:07,233 Health which offers wraparound services for addiction and mental health. 107 00:06:07,967 --> 00:06:10,370 And they're located in Belltown. Thank you. 108 00:06:16,776 --> 00:06:17,910 Good morning. 109 00:06:17,910 --> 00:06:19,712 My name is Doctor Mercy Waingina. 110 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:22,715 I'm a board certified, psychiatric nurse practitioner. 111 00:06:23,015 --> 00:06:26,619 I specialize in mental health and also substance use disorder. 112 00:06:27,687 --> 00:06:30,723 I’m the CEO and Founder of Hope and Chance Integrated Health, 113 00:06:31,157 --> 00:06:35,628 which is a nonprofit organization that provides wraparound services, 114 00:06:36,162 --> 00:06:39,132 mental health services and also substance 115 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:43,202 uh, services. 116 00:06:43,970 --> 00:06:46,939 With over 15 years of direct experience 117 00:06:46,939 --> 00:06:51,210 working in correctional facilities, for example, King County Jail, Snohomish 118 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:55,148 County Jail, Monroe Prison, Purdy Women's Corrections 119 00:06:55,548 --> 00:06:58,451 I've witnessed first hand and heartbreaking 120 00:06:58,451 --> 00:07:01,454 cycle of recidivism 121 00:07:01,687 --> 00:07:04,690 Too often individuals are arrested. 122 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:07,927 They come to the jail, whereby they get, detox, 123 00:07:08,261 --> 00:07:11,697 they begin sterilization with medications, and then they're released 124 00:07:11,697 --> 00:07:16,402 back to the streets with no housing or follow up care or support. 125 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:22,408 Many relapse within weeks or months, and then they return into incarceration. 126 00:07:22,675 --> 00:07:26,145 So there's that cycle that keep going over and over and over. 127 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:28,214 This deeply 128 00:07:28,214 --> 00:07:32,151 broken system inspired me to create a model 129 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:35,488 that addresses these gaps head on. 130 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:38,491 Each housing site that we have. 131 00:07:38,491 --> 00:07:42,662 We have five different, housing in Seattle, 132 00:07:43,563 --> 00:07:46,833 five houses in Tacoma, and we provide transportation. 133 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:48,734 So we are covering all the barriers. 134 00:07:48,734 --> 00:07:51,737 We provide transportation, we provide housing, 135 00:07:51,838 --> 00:07:54,841 we provide, psychiatric, 136 00:07:54,941 --> 00:07:57,977 services like medication management, peer support, 137 00:07:58,845 --> 00:08:01,514 case management, 138 00:08:01,514 --> 00:08:03,216 group 139 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:06,719 medical services, and also job placement. 140 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,623 So we accept referrals from psychiatric, 141 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:13,793 hospitals, inpatient facilities, 142 00:08:13,793 --> 00:08:16,796 shelters and community based organizations. 143 00:08:17,063 --> 00:08:21,234 Additionally, our outreach professionals engage directly 144 00:08:21,234 --> 00:08:26,372 with unhoused individuals in the community to connect them with services. 145 00:08:27,139 --> 00:08:31,444 What makes our model unique is our fierce commitment 146 00:08:31,944 --> 00:08:35,381 to remove the most common barriers for recovery, 147 00:08:35,815 --> 00:08:39,685 housing, transportation, and community reintegration. 148 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:43,623 One of the most impactful partnerships we've had 149 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:48,661 is with We Heart Seattle, and we are working with Andrea Suarez. 150 00:08:48,661 --> 00:08:50,930 She's the CEO and founder. 151 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:53,099 She did believe in our mission 152 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:56,102 and helping our clients rediscover their purpose. 153 00:08:56,402 --> 00:09:00,606 Many of our clients volunteer to help clean up the public spaces, 154 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,744 reclaiming not just the environment, but their own dignity 155 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:08,648 and help heal the environment they once struggled in. 156 00:09:09,615 --> 00:09:12,151 Our program structure is in three phases, 157 00:09:12,151 --> 00:09:16,956 so once they come into our program, we give them 90 days, which is phase one. 158 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:22,828 So in phase one, we focus on just giving the treatment, focusing on our clients. 159 00:09:23,429 --> 00:09:24,697 They are with us for 90 days 160 00:09:24,697 --> 00:09:28,000 and it's all individual based before they can transition to phase two. 161 00:09:28,634 --> 00:09:31,704 So once they move to phase two, the transition to phase two, 162 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:34,941 we started talking about continuing with the treatment. 163 00:09:34,941 --> 00:09:37,944 And also we start talking about job placement. 164 00:09:38,311 --> 00:09:41,314 We are currently working with a few apprenticeships, 165 00:09:41,614 --> 00:09:45,251 so we want to give them the skills while they're still in the program, 166 00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:47,620 still getting the treatment that they need. 167 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:50,957 So once they get the treatment that they need and they find jobs, 168 00:09:51,390 --> 00:09:54,360 they can go to jobs and still continue getting the treatment. 169 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,797 So we are preparing them for placement into housing, 170 00:09:58,230 --> 00:10:02,101 because putting them into housing without a purpose, without giving them 171 00:10:02,301 --> 00:10:05,271 something to look forward to, it's not going to help them 172 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,640 because they're going to go back to using the drugs, 173 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,643 or they're going to use the same, same drugs in those housing. 174 00:10:10,643 --> 00:10:14,013 So we have to prepare them, and they have up to 90 days 175 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:17,550 to be able to work, 176 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:19,885 stay with us, continue getting the help that they need. 177 00:10:19,885 --> 00:10:23,389 And then once they're stable, they're able to save up enough money 178 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:29,428 to put down for, for housing, and then they're able to transition and, 179 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:33,065 we have had a lot of success stories. 180 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:36,836 We have clients that have moved into housing, low income housing. 181 00:10:36,969 --> 00:10:38,237 They are still working. 182 00:10:38,237 --> 00:10:41,240 They still continue seeing our psychiatric nurse practitioners. 183 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:44,310 We have almost five psychiatric nurse practitioners. 184 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:48,547 We have medical providers who provide a who provides medical services. 185 00:10:48,781 --> 00:10:51,684 And we check in with these clients even after they move on. 186 00:10:51,684 --> 00:10:55,688 And, all I can say is we are getting good, 187 00:10:57,089 --> 00:10:59,358 progress and we're getting good success 188 00:10:59,358 --> 00:11:02,294 stories. 189 00:11:02,294 --> 00:11:03,529 At Hope and Chance 190 00:11:03,529 --> 00:11:06,532 Integrated Health, we are not just providing treatment, 191 00:11:06,799 --> 00:11:11,237 we are restoring hope, rebuilding lives, and creating 192 00:11:11,237 --> 00:11:14,640 lasting change in our communities, one person at a time. 193 00:11:15,541 --> 00:11:17,910 Thank you. 194 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:21,681 (applause) 195 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:27,119 - Next, I'd like to 196 00:11:27,119 --> 00:11:30,556 welcome Daniel Malone, who needs no introduction from downtown. 197 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:32,892 Yeah. 198 00:11:32,892 --> 00:11:33,959 Emergency services. 199 00:11:33,959 --> 00:11:35,094 Go ahead. 200 00:11:35,094 --> 00:11:35,961 - Thank you very much. 201 00:11:35,961 --> 00:11:37,563 Council President Nelson. Good morning. 202 00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:41,934 I'm with DESC, which is an organization that provides 203 00:11:42,068 --> 00:11:45,237 shelter, emergency housing, permanent supportive housing, 204 00:11:45,237 --> 00:11:50,576 and behavioral health services for people with really complicated and profound 205 00:11:50,576 --> 00:11:55,681 disabling conditions who have also been experiencing long term homelessness. 206 00:11:55,681 --> 00:12:00,453 And in short, we assist people with getting off the streets for good 207 00:12:00,853 --> 00:12:01,887 and giving them a chance 208 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:05,791 to stabilize and better reconnect with the life of the community. 209 00:12:06,659 --> 00:12:09,628 The things that make the biggest difference for people 210 00:12:09,628 --> 00:12:14,767 with serious mental illness and long time substance use disorder to live 211 00:12:15,234 --> 00:12:19,405 healthier and happier lives include, first and foremost, 212 00:12:20,072 --> 00:12:24,877 a safe and stable place to live, as well as a range of care 213 00:12:24,877 --> 00:12:27,947 and support that's applicable to their individual needs. 214 00:12:28,414 --> 00:12:31,751 For many people who we focus on helping a DESC 215 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:35,354 that includes tailored behavioral health services, 216 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:40,459 including case management, psychiatric diagnosis and medication 217 00:12:41,026 --> 00:12:45,131 and treatment for a range of substance use disorder conditions. 218 00:12:45,731 --> 00:12:49,568 We offer a state licensed substance use disorder treatment that includes 219 00:12:49,568 --> 00:12:54,874 outpatient counseling and case management, assistance with accessing inpatient 220 00:12:54,874 --> 00:12:58,344 treatment and use of medications where indicated. 221 00:12:59,044 --> 00:13:02,248 Over the past year, we've had markedly improved 222 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:05,251 success in assisting people to start 223 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:08,754 and stay on medications for opioid use disorder. 224 00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:11,891 This success is attributable to bringing care 225 00:13:11,891 --> 00:13:14,894 to people where they're comfortable receiving it, 226 00:13:15,094 --> 00:13:19,331 and to advances in the protocol for administering buprenorphine so that, 227 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:23,435 it's much more comfortable for people to take. 228 00:13:23,435 --> 00:13:26,972 It's hundreds of people are benefiting from this approach, 229 00:13:26,972 --> 00:13:29,975 and they're staying off of fentanyl use as a result. 230 00:13:30,276 --> 00:13:34,280 But many, many more people need this kind of treatment. 231 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,283 And existing programs are at capacity. 232 00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:41,053 We also see many more people struggling 233 00:13:41,053 --> 00:13:45,658 with their use of other substances, including stimulants like methamphetamine. 234 00:13:46,458 --> 00:13:49,829 And we need to, as a community, devise and implement 235 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:52,998 a range of better interventions to help people who use 236 00:13:52,998 --> 00:13:56,035 methamphetamine achieve the same kind of success 237 00:13:56,535 --> 00:14:00,239 we're having with people who are using fentanyl and other opioids. 238 00:14:01,106 --> 00:14:05,911 This funding that Council President Nelson is proposing ensures that the city's 239 00:14:05,911 --> 00:14:09,782 approach to the crisis on our streets will include evidence 240 00:14:09,782 --> 00:14:13,452 based and innovative strategies that will produce lasting change, 241 00:14:13,953 --> 00:14:16,522 and I'm grateful to see these proposed investments. 242 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:17,823 Thank you. 243 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:22,394 (applause) 244 00:14:22,828 --> 00:14:25,931 - Next I'd like to call it Brandy McNeil of of Purpose 245 00:14:25,931 --> 00:14:28,934 Dignity Action. 246 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:30,703 - Thank you. 247 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:35,241 I want to, begin by expressing deep admiration for Council President Nelson. 248 00:14:35,241 --> 00:14:38,978 She has been a consistent and vocal champion of recovery services, 249 00:14:39,278 --> 00:14:41,780 and she has never wavered in her commitment 250 00:14:41,780 --> 00:14:44,783 to making these issues a top priority for our city. 251 00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:48,420 Her leadership is one of the reasons we're able to stand here today and talk 252 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:52,658 not only about the challenges we face, but also the progress we've made. 253 00:14:53,692 --> 00:14:58,264 Let's be clear any serious public safety system must prioritize 254 00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:02,101 how we respond to individuals with complex behavioral health needs, 255 00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:05,571 especially when those needs are contributing to harm 256 00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:08,574 or distress in neighborhoods and business districts. 257 00:15:08,607 --> 00:15:11,543 Ignoring that reality only prolongs the cycle. 258 00:15:11,543 --> 00:15:16,382 Confronting it head on is how we build safer, healthier communities. 259 00:15:17,316 --> 00:15:20,252 Over the last several years, we've seen measurable progress 260 00:15:20,252 --> 00:15:23,255 through initiatives that take this approach seriously. 261 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,991 Our partnership with SPD on drug 262 00:15:25,991 --> 00:15:29,128 possession and public use diversions required by both 263 00:15:29,128 --> 00:15:32,865 the Possession and Public Use Ordinance adopted in the fall of 2023 264 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:36,902 and by speedy policy, has been a standout success. 265 00:15:37,503 --> 00:15:41,573 Now, instead of jail or prosecution, individuals contacted by SPD 266 00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:47,313 have access to a warm handoff 24 over seven within 30 minutes to a field 267 00:15:47,313 --> 00:15:51,083 response team that can connect them to services immediately. 268 00:15:52,384 --> 00:15:55,921 We're also in the process of critical data integration with SPD systems, 269 00:15:55,921 --> 00:15:59,525 so that officers can make decisions directly within their information system, 270 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,660 get credit for those those decisions, 271 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:04,663 and have greater visibility into who's already in the program. 272 00:16:05,097 --> 00:16:08,500 That means officers can directly contact case managers 273 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,503 instead of cycling people through jail or emergency rooms. 274 00:16:11,837 --> 00:16:15,207 That's as council member, council President Nelson said, that's 275 00:16:15,207 --> 00:16:19,411 smart public safety policy and smart public safety policy works. 276 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:22,748 Other efforts have seen similar success. 277 00:16:22,748 --> 00:16:26,285 The Just Care program, originally focused on encampment resolution, 278 00:16:26,285 --> 00:16:30,122 has evolved into a robust model that informed the state transfer 279 00:16:30,422 --> 00:16:33,525 transportation, right of way encampment resolution program 280 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:37,162 co-lead continues to show remarkable outcomes. 281 00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:40,265 Over 95% of participants accept services. 282 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:45,938 More than 70% transition to permanent housing, 100% are enrolled in Medicaid, 283 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:49,174 and we've had zero co-lead participant overdose. 284 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:52,011 Overdose deaths in co-lead lodging. 285 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,380 The Third Avenue Project is another example. 286 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:57,383 Business owners and residents alike. 287 00:16:57,649 --> 00:17:01,653 Pardon me, residents alike, have reported a high level of satisfaction with 288 00:17:01,653 --> 00:17:06,392 We Deliver Care’s rapid street level response, and we've seen successful 289 00:17:06,392 --> 00:17:09,361 shelter and housing placements through lead case management 290 00:17:09,661 --> 00:17:12,731 for chronically unsheltered people with high neighborhood impact. 291 00:17:13,832 --> 00:17:14,433 Because of 292 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:17,403 these interventions, we're seeing tangible results 293 00:17:17,469 --> 00:17:21,840 declining crime rates, a growing sentiment among residents and businesses. 294 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,477 That disorder is decreasing and reduced overdose deaths. 295 00:17:26,311 --> 00:17:30,249 But I want to be honest, we still have a long way to go. 296 00:17:30,249 --> 00:17:34,119 And what's even more pressing is that all the programs I've mentioned 297 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,055 have suffered major setbacks 298 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:39,158 due to state and local funding reductions over the last three years. 299 00:17:39,992 --> 00:17:42,961 We cannot afford to let what's working fall apart. 300 00:17:42,961 --> 00:17:45,297 We have to stabilize these programs 301 00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:48,300 and add new pieces to address the gaps that remain. 302 00:17:48,867 --> 00:17:51,804 One such effort was Council President Nelson's idea 303 00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:55,007 to sponsor a low friction pathway for immediate placement 304 00:17:55,407 --> 00:17:59,912 into private pay inpatient treatment programs like Lake Lakeside-Milam. 305 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:03,348 She understood that low barrier programs like LEAD and Co-LEAD 306 00:18:03,348 --> 00:18:07,186 don't require sobriety at entry, but they do support people 307 00:18:07,186 --> 00:18:10,689 making as much progress as possible on the path to recovery. 308 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:15,027 Co-LEAD nominated the largest group to use this option so far, 309 00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:18,997 and nearly all of them completed treatment and are still doing well today. 310 00:18:20,432 --> 00:18:21,366 But that 311 00:18:21,366 --> 00:18:24,837 experience also revealed another gap when participants finished treatment. 312 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:28,640 They shouldn't have to return to housing where active use is prevalent. 313 00:18:29,475 --> 00:18:30,375 Council President 314 00:18:30,375 --> 00:18:34,146 Nelson was absolutely right to push for recovery housing rent subsidies 315 00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:37,583 to help people maintain the progress they've worked so hard to achieve, 316 00:18:38,183 --> 00:18:41,753 and perhaps most fundamentally, none of this works without long 317 00:18:41,753 --> 00:18:43,589 term, high quality case management. 318 00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:46,225 That's the heart of what lead and CO-LEAD provide. 319 00:18:46,225 --> 00:18:51,263 And yet those programs are very much in jeopardy due to millions of dollars 320 00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:54,333 in lost local and state funding over the last two years. 321 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,469 We strongly support the full range of investments 322 00:18:57,469 --> 00:19:00,672 called for in the resolution under discussion today and 323 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:04,443 and yet those this work 324 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:08,881 belongs at the center of our city's public safety agenda, not on the margins. 325 00:19:09,181 --> 00:19:10,983 And it must be funded accordingly. 326 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:13,485 Once again, I want to thank Council President Nelson 327 00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:15,220 for her leadership in advancing this work. 328 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:18,090 We have proof that these approaches work now. 329 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:19,992 We must ensure that these efforts 330 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:22,861 have the funding needed to continue delivering results. 331 00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:23,362 Thank you. 332 00:19:23,929 --> 00:19:28,767 (applause) 333 00:19:29,935 --> 00:19:31,670 - Last but certainly not least, Stephen 334 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:34,673 Woodworth of Evergreen Treatment Services. 335 00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:36,808 - Good morning. 336 00:19:36,808 --> 00:19:39,411 We had evergreen treatment Services have been providing substance 337 00:19:39,411 --> 00:19:42,414 use disorder treatment in Seattle for 52 years. 338 00:19:43,148 --> 00:19:46,418 We find ourselves, right now in the nonprofit, 339 00:19:46,418 --> 00:19:49,888 community based behavioral health and social service sector 340 00:19:50,155 --> 00:19:53,158 in very challenging and uncertain times. 341 00:19:54,293 --> 00:19:57,029 For those organizations who serve individuals with severe substance 342 00:19:57,029 --> 00:20:00,499 use disorder, especially those living unsheltered, 343 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:03,502 because it's a struggle for much of our workforce 344 00:20:03,502 --> 00:20:05,404 to actually afford to live in Seattle. 345 00:20:05,404 --> 00:20:09,107 Lending support for a sales tax increase is not something that I take lightly. 346 00:20:09,675 --> 00:20:14,413 However, if this tax to support public safety is adopted, I strongly support 347 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,483 dedicating a portion of the revenue to funding low barrier shelter 348 00:20:18,483 --> 00:20:21,887 services, jail diversion and alternative response, 349 00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:25,257 and the coupling of behavioral health and permanent supportive 350 00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:28,393 housing in addition to needed capital improvement projects, 351 00:20:29,494 --> 00:20:32,364 we continue to find ourselves in a perilous situation 352 00:20:32,364 --> 00:20:37,069 with poisonous drug supply and persistent, preventable drug overdose deaths 353 00:20:37,469 --> 00:20:40,472 that disproportionately affect those living unsheltered. 354 00:20:40,772 --> 00:20:43,976 To date, even if we had tighter system coordination, 355 00:20:44,109 --> 00:20:47,579 I would argue the resources have never been adequate 356 00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:51,116 to address the scale and scope of the problem that we face. 357 00:20:52,117 --> 00:20:56,455 Unfortunately, the irresponsible and draconian Medicaid cuts 358 00:20:56,955 --> 00:21:00,292 that the Senate just passed moments ago by one vote 359 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:03,962 will further compound the devastation and the consequences 360 00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:07,099 for the most vulnerable here in Western Washington will be severe. 361 00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:11,403 I see the opportunity to invest the sales tax generated 362 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:16,541 revenue in recovery oriented services as one step we can take 363 00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:20,245 to fund evidence based services at the local level, 364 00:21:20,479 --> 00:21:25,517 in response to the federal government's abandonment of vulnerable and sick people. 365 00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:29,521 As is often said during a times of crisis, every little bit helps. 366 00:21:30,489 --> 00:21:30,789 I want to 367 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:31,423 acknowledge and 368 00:21:31,423 --> 00:21:35,794 thank Councilmember President Nelson for her leadership and foresight 369 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:39,831 in recognizing that public health and public safety are inextricably linked. 370 00:21:40,832 --> 00:21:44,369 Healthy communities are safer communities, and given what we're up against, 371 00:21:44,369 --> 00:21:48,674 directing some public safety funding towards pathways to recovery 372 00:21:48,674 --> 00:21:52,177 is the right and responsible thing to do. 373 00:21:52,177 --> 00:21:56,481 (applause) 374 00:21:57,182 --> 00:21:57,783 - Thank you all. 375 00:21:57,783 --> 00:22:01,720 I'll just briefly close us out here by by, 376 00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:04,856 saying out loud what you might be thinking. 377 00:22:04,856 --> 00:22:07,893 This is an eclectic mix of service providers. 378 00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:12,230 They represent different, methodologies, different 379 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:15,267 philosophies, different approaches to addiction and treatment. 380 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,602 But it takes all of us, really. 381 00:22:17,602 --> 00:22:20,005 We cannot, we can't pick and choose. 382 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:22,808 I believe when I stumbled into the politics 383 00:22:22,808 --> 00:22:26,311 of treatment and recovery I didn't know about, 384 00:22:27,112 --> 00:22:31,450 you know, harm reduction versus not harm reduction, housing first, etc.. 385 00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:34,453 I was just thinking about the fastest way to get people help. 386 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,622 And so that's what that's the spirit that we have to go forward with. 387 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:40,759 I want to recognize that city attorney and Davison is here today 388 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:43,762 because in a few weeks, her drug possession, 389 00:22:44,162 --> 00:22:47,966 drug prosecution alternative will start up as the next layer 390 00:22:47,966 --> 00:22:51,803 that we need in the fight for winning, for people winning over addictions. 391 00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:55,440 And, in where they will have more accountability 392 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,276 leading to the doorway to recovery treatment. 393 00:22:58,276 --> 00:22:59,544 I mangled that quote, 394 00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:02,647 but I just want to say that it takes every, every branch of government 395 00:23:02,647 --> 00:23:03,849 to do their job as well. 396 00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:07,319 Policy, the courts and and the executive. 397 00:23:07,619 --> 00:23:11,390 And so what I'm calling for is a critical shift in how we think about, 398 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:16,395 treatment and recovery in substance use disorder. 399 00:23:16,695 --> 00:23:21,099 And, and I'll come together because it's because, as I've said before, 400 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,637 addiction is expensive for us to deal with the, the impacts. 401 00:23:25,637 --> 00:23:29,074 And I'm not even touching on the sorrow and the heartache and, 402 00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:33,245 and the desperation that people around us in this town feel every day. 403 00:23:34,346 --> 00:23:37,149 The next steps in this, in, in this process is that 404 00:23:37,149 --> 00:23:40,452 I do have a resolution that has been cleared by law 405 00:23:40,452 --> 00:23:43,455 and will be on the introduction and referral calendar next week. 406 00:23:43,722 --> 00:23:46,324 It is a, it's a it's an introduction. 407 00:23:46,324 --> 00:23:49,094 It's a resolution that lists a series of investments. 408 00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:52,097 And if somebody has their paper, 409 00:23:52,097 --> 00:23:55,100 can I read some of them? 410 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,334 Thank you. 411 00:23:56,334 --> 00:23:59,538 This is not a complete list of all the things that I'm calling for, but 412 00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:01,273 because our needs are great, 413 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:03,875 expanding access to on demand 414 00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:05,110 residential and intensive 415 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:08,914 outpatient substance use disorder treatment, enhancing access to recovery, 416 00:24:08,914 --> 00:24:12,818 housing and recovery based services within already existing housing. 417 00:24:12,818 --> 00:24:14,853 Permanent supportive housing, 418 00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:17,956 innovative, innovative approaches to addressing stimulant 419 00:24:17,989 --> 00:24:22,727 use disorder and expanding the provision of long lasting buprenorphine injections. 420 00:24:22,727 --> 00:24:25,897 That's what, that's what Daniel Malone was just talking about. 421 00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:27,098 And on and on and on. 422 00:24:27,098 --> 00:24:29,835 It's really long list stabilizing diversion. 423 00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:32,838 And, and our co-lead model, 424 00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:36,741 funding capital investments 425 00:24:36,741 --> 00:24:39,978 in the facilities where people go, for treatment 426 00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:45,383 and also our drop in centers for people that, that are living outside unhoused. 427 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:48,787 And this is one thing that I haven't mentioned and hasn't come up in 428 00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:52,090 conversation is we need to coordinate with the King County to increase 429 00:24:52,090 --> 00:24:56,194 the number of designated crisis responders, otherwise known as doctors, 430 00:24:57,195 --> 00:25:00,165 that operate within Seattle to facilitate referrals 431 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:03,668 to secure withdrawal management and stabilization facilities, 432 00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:06,972 such as the one operated by Valley Cites Behavioral Health Care. 433 00:25:07,405 --> 00:25:10,108 And, what we're talking about is involuntary commitment. 434 00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:13,111 We've heard more and more acceptance of, 435 00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:15,480 in recognition of the need for that, 436 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,750 for people who are in danger of harming themselves and others. 437 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:21,753 The problem is there aren't enough doctors to really, 438 00:25:22,687 --> 00:25:24,322 help us take that next step. 439 00:25:24,322 --> 00:25:26,091 So the list goes on and on. 440 00:25:26,091 --> 00:25:28,860 I'm not going to bore you with, with everything that we need to do. 441 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:32,397 My point is that we have to start now and focus on treatment 442 00:25:32,664 --> 00:25:34,799 as a public safety response. 443 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:38,370 So thank you very much for all being here today. 444 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:44,175 (applause) 445 00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:45,577 I can take a couple questions. 446 00:25:46,745 --> 00:25:48,480 Yeah. 447 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,115 - Your announcement says that this is going to be 448 00:25:50,115 --> 00:25:53,118 a low barrier to the, treatment. 449 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:57,389 Some of the folks that are gathered here might offer a low barrier to support it. 450 00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:01,126 So how is that legislation will be guaranteed if this is low barrier 451 00:26:01,126 --> 00:26:04,996 rather than treatment that, you know, for example, kicks people out of 452 00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,731 the program. 453 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:08,066 - Most treatment is short 454 00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:11,169 term, that I'm talking about when I'm talking about treatment there. 455 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:15,540 Obviously, we've got opioid use disorder treatment 456 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,810 that is ongoing for a long time, and then you've got your rehab, 457 00:26:18,810 --> 00:26:22,113 which is simply, you know, you go to a facility at detox, 458 00:26:22,113 --> 00:26:25,116 and then you spend some time trying to get your mind straight. 459 00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:28,587 The point is that, it, it takes everything. 460 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:33,158 And it's not up to us to define, what people should do. 461 00:26:33,158 --> 00:26:34,893 And what is the right, 462 00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:37,762 path to recovery for them. 463 00:26:37,762 --> 00:26:38,763 What I am trying to do 464 00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:42,233 is I'm trying to add more pavers on that roadway to recovery. 465 00:26:42,867 --> 00:26:45,870 Simply. 466 00:26:46,571 --> 00:26:49,574 - As I've I've studied this topic 467 00:26:49,641 --> 00:26:52,644 more deeply over the past year, Council members, 468 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:56,581 I was really unaware of the schism 469 00:26:56,581 --> 00:26:59,584 between low barrier and recovery 470 00:27:01,052 --> 00:27:03,822 housing. 471 00:27:03,822 --> 00:27:04,956 I find it hard to believe 472 00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:08,193 the two sides are necessarily going to come together on this. 473 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,030 One of the things I found, most interesting as a study 474 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:15,033 about this is 475 00:27:16,501 --> 00:27:19,504 addict upon addict I've spoken to has said, 476 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:23,408 they aren’t asked with getting into recovery 477 00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:26,978 about getting into detox until they proactively ask for it. 478 00:27:27,545 --> 00:27:30,548 Why aren't we proactively 479 00:27:30,582 --> 00:27:33,118 asking people in crisis 480 00:27:33,118 --> 00:27:35,887 immediately and often 481 00:27:35,887 --> 00:27:38,890 to get into treatment? 482 00:27:39,257 --> 00:27:40,492 - That's a very good question. 483 00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:45,797 And first of all, what I would have to say is that, the new HSD contracts for 484 00:27:45,797 --> 00:27:51,236 for outreach for our outreach services do require that the outreach workers do 485 00:27:51,236 --> 00:27:55,507 employ, motivational interviewing, which is a way of centering 486 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:59,711 the conversation on the client and servicing their 487 00:27:59,744 --> 00:28:03,114 their goals, short term and long term goals and leading 488 00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:06,117 folks to a decision to take care of themselves. 489 00:28:06,217 --> 00:28:10,689 So what I think I would like to tell you is that, yeah, the schisms 490 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:15,493 that you talk about, I, I truly believe because I wouldn't be standing here with, 491 00:28:16,227 --> 00:28:19,464 all sides of the schism if we all didn't recognize that 492 00:28:19,464 --> 00:28:23,802 it takes all kinds of treatment and all because there is not one cookie cutter, 493 00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:27,639 there's not one path only to recovery. 494 00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:31,743 And it takes, and that is why every single service that, that, 495 00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:36,815 that the organizations represented here provide are important because, 496 00:28:37,916 --> 00:28:39,350 you know, I chose one thing 497 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:42,353 when I made that decision, but somebody else might choose another. 498 00:28:44,089 --> 00:28:47,459 - Your announcement is up to 25% of the revenue 499 00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:51,162 generated in the people, based on service providers agreement. 500 00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:54,199 You have an idea of the other 75% 501 00:28:54,199 --> 00:28:54,532 would go to? 502 00:28:54,532 --> 00:28:57,535 - Well, 503 00:28:59,037 --> 00:29:00,505 I think that's for the mayor to say. 504 00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:03,508 What I will say is that there is, 505 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,543 there are vastly more services. 506 00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:08,613 The need is tremendously greater than than, 507 00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:13,651 you know, 20%, 5%, 25% of $35 million. 508 00:29:13,651 --> 00:29:15,720 Right? I'm talking about starting. 509 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,358 I'm talking about starting a conversation toward, focusing on the need 510 00:29:20,358 --> 00:29:24,362 for treatment and, and, and shoring up the services 511 00:29:24,362 --> 00:29:27,365 that we already have and filling in the gaps. 512 00:29:33,805 --> 00:29:36,775 - I just wanted to go back to the designated crisis responders. 513 00:29:38,343 --> 00:29:40,945 My understanding is that there is a problem. 514 00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:42,046 - Oh. Oh. 515 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:43,081 Oh, Gina. 516 00:29:43,081 --> 00:29:46,050 I'm sorry. Can you come up here? 517 00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:47,318 I didn't. 518 00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:48,586 My understanding is because. 519 00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:51,156 Gina with Uplift Northwest. Go ahead. 520 00:29:51,156 --> 00:29:54,159 And where, you know, you can have more people 521 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,629 trying to get people to do voluntary.... 522 00:29:57,796 --> 00:30:00,365 Good. 523 00:30:00,365 --> 00:30:02,667 But there's, certainly there's not necessarily anywhere 524 00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:04,803 to put them that is secure. 525 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:08,640 You know, when you're talking about involuntary treatment, what we focus on. 526 00:30:08,706 --> 00:30:10,508 Because I guess this question sorry, I got. 527 00:30:10,508 --> 00:30:12,510 Distracted by, yeah. 528 00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:16,080 - Focusing on DCR simply because, when I am told 529 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,083 why it's difficult to get people who, 530 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:22,821 from a professional perspective 531 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:26,224 should be, in such a facility, 532 00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:30,428 the people that actually make that call are, 533 00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:35,433 very difficult to reach or just simply unavailable for too long. 534 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,703 So that is why, that is why I'm focusing on 535 00:30:38,703 --> 00:30:41,406 and obviously they're designated by King County, 536 00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:41,906 correct? 537 00:30:41,906 --> 00:30:44,976 And so we're not the boss of, of the county, clearly. 538 00:30:44,976 --> 00:30:46,144 But if we were to, 539 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:48,012 provide some 540 00:30:48,012 --> 00:30:51,015 additional funding for some additional, 541 00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:56,054 FTE, let's say that could serve specifically Seattle residents, 542 00:30:56,054 --> 00:30:59,490 then I think that would go a long way toward breaking through that bottleneck. 543 00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:01,492 Yeah. 544 00:31:01,492 --> 00:31:03,361 - So that point is this sort of reflect 545 00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:07,398 the lack of faith that the King County is going to increase its investment. 546 00:31:07,398 --> 00:31:08,433 In this intensive services? 547 00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:10,501 - So I'm not going to speak for the county. 548 00:31:10,501 --> 00:31:12,904 I do serve on the Board of Health and the, 549 00:31:12,904 --> 00:31:16,474 the governance board of the King County Regional Homelessness Authority. 550 00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:19,410 So I do hear of their budget, 551 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:21,012 challenges as well. 552 00:31:21,012 --> 00:31:22,580 It's not a lack of faith. 553 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:25,483 It is simply that we have to do more. 554 00:31:25,483 --> 00:31:29,654 And I think that we can all agree that, that what the county offers, 555 00:31:29,654 --> 00:31:33,091 it offers is insufficient to meet the need we've got right here in Seattle, 556 00:31:33,091 --> 00:31:35,360 let alone the rest of the county. 557 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,363 So that's why we're trying to to pitch in here. 558 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:41,532 You know, what I want to mention is that we expanded, 559 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:45,103 the CARE team from seven to, I believe, 27. 560 00:31:46,771 --> 00:31:48,373 Responders. 561 00:31:48,373 --> 00:31:51,743 But where do they send people when they're dealing with somebody in crisis? 562 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:54,746 If a CARE team member were right here, what would that person, 563 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:59,884 say or do with the with the gentleman who is who is just passing by. 564 00:32:00,451 --> 00:32:03,254 The same goes for, for outreach. 565 00:32:03,254 --> 00:32:05,156 I want to recognize Andrew Constantino. 566 00:32:05,156 --> 00:32:10,094 He took me on a walk in Little Saigon and, explained the work that he does. 567 00:32:10,561 --> 00:32:15,066 But what does one tell someone if when Andrew's in conversation with them, 568 00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:19,137 if they say, yeah, I really want to stop using where do they go? 569 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:21,272 And so this is what I'm talking about 570 00:32:21,272 --> 00:32:24,509 is our resources that are, immediately available. 571 00:32:24,809 --> 00:32:26,844 And also meet many other needs. 572 00:32:26,844 --> 00:32:31,082 I funded a an additional, mobile medication unit for evergreen 573 00:32:31,082 --> 00:32:33,751 treatment services because we can't just arrest people 574 00:32:33,751 --> 00:32:37,422 for using drugs downtown, we should be also offering them treatment 575 00:32:37,422 --> 00:32:38,256 right where 576 00:32:39,324 --> 00:32:41,059 Right in the hotspots, 577 00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:44,062 Third Avenue Pike in Pines, Little Saigon. 578 00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:45,964 That's just one, however. 579 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,967 And so I am calling for a, 580 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:52,770 a pivot, a critical shift in the way we think about the importance 581 00:32:52,770 --> 00:32:56,741 of treatment and centrality in advancing public safety. 582 00:32:57,241 --> 00:33:00,244 And also, public health. 583 00:33:00,378 --> 00:33:04,549 - Would investments in, 584 00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:09,354 earmarking these investment for treatment 585 00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:12,090 take away from the larger, goal around the police 586 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:14,592 department? 587 00:33:14,592 --> 00:33:17,595 - Well. 588 00:33:18,229 --> 00:33:21,165 I, I recognize that we that hiring 589 00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:24,168 that SPD is hiring at unprecedented rates. 590 00:33:24,535 --> 00:33:28,673 You know, thanks to many of the policies that council put into action. 591 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:34,112 So we will likely have, a shortfall this year in that department. 592 00:33:34,545 --> 00:33:37,548 I don't, but it is not up to 35 million. 593 00:33:37,582 --> 00:33:42,253 And I'm sure that the mayor has other plans for, for this, resource, 594 00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:46,691 when and if, he puts it forward with the, with the other budget legislation. 595 00:33:47,325 --> 00:33:48,760 But what could be more important? 596 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:52,764 That's simply the point I'm trying to make. 597 00:33:54,165 --> 00:33:54,399 Okay. 598 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:55,099 One more question. 599 00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:58,102 Okay. I. 600 00:33:58,269 --> 00:34:00,405 I did, 601 00:34:00,405 --> 00:34:01,773 - We've been getting sober 602 00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:04,742 and sober about a lot of years. 603 00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:08,379 Like, I kind of question to everyone up here 604 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,982 and I, I've always wanted to know the answer to this. 605 00:34:10,982 --> 00:34:11,682 I was an addict. 606 00:34:11,682 --> 00:34:14,252 17 years, 14 years recovery. 607 00:34:14,252 --> 00:34:17,221 I've always heard this word evidence based. 608 00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:20,658 Evidence of what? 609 00:34:20,825 --> 00:34:22,260 Can anyone answer 610 00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:26,297 what the what that evidence means evidence of what? 611 00:34:26,297 --> 00:34:27,065 I mean. 612 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:31,536 We talk about investing money in evidence based solutions. 613 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,439 Evidence of what? 614 00:34:34,439 --> 00:34:37,442 - I'll answer I will I'm not going to go there. 615 00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:39,010 Does that mean a person buys a home? 616 00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,478 Does that mean a sober person 617 00:34:40,478 --> 00:34:44,315 that doesn't use drugs or what does the evidence show? 618 00:34:44,549 --> 00:34:49,153 The what I will simply say is I've never looked at that question the same way, but, 619 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:53,458 SAMSA defines 620 00:34:53,458 --> 00:34:57,295 recovery basically as getting one's life back together. 621 00:34:57,295 --> 00:35:00,965 And that is the goal that we are that we're after is is helping. 622 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:02,100 Excuse me, sir. 623 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,801 - But I'm just asking because that's that's. 624 00:35:03,801 --> 00:35:07,038 And no one's ever came and asked anyone from us about that. 625 00:35:07,338 --> 00:35:08,039 - And that's okay. 626 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,108 So this is what this... 627 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,810 How do we get our evidence put forth? 628 00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:15,713 - Okay, I would be let me, let us talk about that later. 629 00:35:15,713 --> 00:35:18,983 But the reason why I also want people to recognize 630 00:35:18,983 --> 00:35:23,688 is that in addition to our, our existing large service 631 00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:26,190 providers, when we're talking about getting people off the street, 632 00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:30,561 there is a whole network of pie of private or philanthropy supported 633 00:35:30,828 --> 00:35:34,632 smaller shops that can also help relieve the, 634 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:40,471 the shortage of space in our, in our already existing, 635 00:35:41,405 --> 00:35:43,941 transitional and permanent supportive housing. 636 00:35:43,941 --> 00:35:47,645 And I and here's the reason that I wanted to just add one more thing. 637 00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:51,782 I asked the, the directors of two of our business improvement areas 638 00:35:51,782 --> 00:35:55,586 here is because as a small business owner, I hear, I know, 639 00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:59,157 and I hear from small businesses all the time, the, the, 640 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:02,727 the impacts of the, 641 00:36:02,727 --> 00:36:06,030 the fentanyl crisis on our neighborhood business districts. 642 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:09,767 And mind you, the game has changed completely with fentanyl. 643 00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:12,904 And so we can't keep doing things in the same old way that we used to. 644 00:36:12,904 --> 00:36:16,674 That is why I'm calling for a critical pivot toward a focus on treatment 645 00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:19,343 that offers a number of different modalities 646 00:36:19,343 --> 00:36:22,346 to help the people that we see struggling on our streets every day. 647 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,981 Thank you, everybody, for coming today. 648 00:36:25,082 --> 00:36:28,085 - Is the mayor supporting your proposal? 649 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,555 The mayor has indicated, 650 00:36:30,555 --> 00:36:33,858 support of the principle of the, of the idea. 651 00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:37,495 And, it will have to wait until we get closer to the, 652 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:41,032 to budget to figure out what, what the departments 653 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:45,002 are proposing for some reductions before we get to any hard numbers. 654 00:36:45,603 --> 00:36:46,804 Thank you. 655 00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:50,441 (applause)